True, the lobby simply isn't there. But a lot of the first round of Bolshiviks were Jewish and even though Stalin was a murderous asshole to them too, this is the moment to reestablish those relations. And we've got plenty of equipment to spare. Merkava based on T-55, we might get a T-M72 as a joint venture. It makes the tanker in me salivate 😉
Red Alert - Our 1953 USSR
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I support this as well. People's Soviet Republic/Federation.
A) Yes,
tough we should still help our allies like China to develop these Weapons as our relations pretty much depend on it.
B) No.
I generally want to keep elements of social agriculture so I'll support @ruffino .
But I'd like to amend the vote a little in a sense of setting up ceartin Quota that farmers must sell to the state , but they would be fairly compensated for it and will receive necessary tools and fertilizers for it. Otherwise let majority of extra product be sold by market price and allow farmers to keep the profit. Also set a system where farmers despite being cooperatives have their own plots of land.
In case of increasing general productivity? Set a system that rewards most hardworking workers with bonuses and paid vacations bit also punish less hardworking workers with salary cuts and bonus cuts, exclusion from state paid vacations (this way we keep our maximal employment policy, but still ensure consequences for laziness). People will work extra harder if they get a reward at the end, but some need that extra nudge.
Encourage mechanization of factories and encourage imports of the products where we are weak. Preferably from fellow Communist nations like E. Germany, but we shouldn't be shy in buying from the West.
Regarding Pan Arabism?
Mix between @Kurd Gossemer and @ruffino
as they said everything i want to say.
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DnD didn't appear until the seventies - and for the most part it was reminiscent of turn-based Diablo. There is no need to remember about the developed gaming industry until the eighties.
But we must remember that the Soviet leadership was very snobbish. Let's look at the example of comics - in the USSR, comics existed but as a form of “entertainment for children.” Cultural functionaries and figures were not interested in the development of the industry, and had no idea in what direction it could be developed. This is important because in other Warsaw Pact countries and Yugoslavia there were more complex series aimed at teenage audiences (And even the Italian and French Communist Parties had their own magazines, which contained more complex stories with a more “realistic” drawing style).
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Which is why I said "we're a long way" so that it should give us a long enough time.DnD didn't appear until the seventies - and for the most part it was reminiscent of turn-based Diablo. There is no need to remember about the developed gaming industry until the eighties.
But we must remember that the Soviet leadership was very snobbish. Let's look at the example of comics - in the USSR, comics existed but as a form of “entertainment for children.” Cultural functionaries and figures were not interested in the development of the industry, and had no idea in what direction it could be developed. This is important because in other Warsaw Pact countries and Yugoslavia there were more complex series aimed at teenage audiences (And even the Italian and French Communist Parties had their own magazines, which contained more complex stories with a more “realistic” drawing style).
I'm afraid that this isn't our job and it's unrealistic that Soviet leadership will take personal interest in this.
DnD didn't appear until the seventies - and for the most part it was reminiscent of turn-based Diablo. There is no need to remember about the developed gaming industry until the eighties.
But we must remember that the Soviet leadership was very snobbish. Let's look at the example of comics - in the USSR, comics existed but as a form of “entertainment for children.” Cultural functionaries and figures were not interested in the development of the industry, and had no idea in what direction it could be developed. This is important because in other Warsaw Pact countries and Yugoslavia there were more complex series aimed at teenage audiences (And even the Italian and French Communist Parties had their own magazines, which contained more complex stories with a more “realistic” drawing style).
Generally problem is that most of the economy is controlled by the state which means state decides where money goes which is generally why Eastern block was behind the west in entertainment . Burocracy simply didn't see the need to invest in those things and plan for them, plus when they did invest they didn't really focus on the entertainment opposed to education, or healthy entertainment.
USSR inventing Dungeons & Dragons in its form that are popular at that is highly unlikely. You simply won't find kind of people necessary to give a green light for it without trying to make it more child/Communist friendly.
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The management of the film industry was more or less competent. Moreover, in Eastern Europe there were comics, and more frivolous films.... and even erotic magazines (hello Hungary).
DnD maybe not, but how about a wargame?
It could be included in the training of future officers of the Soviet Union, a bit like the German Empire did, and then go from being something for training to entertainment for both military and civilians. And from here, there may be the possibility that someone develops their own universe, with its history, its rules, etc. so that later, they make the leap to a kind of DnD.
Something similar to what happened with the Malaz books, which at first were the DnD setting where the authors played, and by developing it, they managed to write a saga of fantastic literature.
It could be included in the training of future officers of the Soviet Union, a bit like the German Empire did, and then go from being something for training to entertainment for both military and civilians. And from here, there may be the possibility that someone develops their own universe, with its history, its rules, etc. so that later, they make the leap to a kind of DnD.
Something similar to what happened with the Malaz books, which at first were the DnD setting where the authors played, and by developing it, they managed to write a saga of fantastic literature.
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Yea makes sense, basically just have officer give those to their children and children share it with their friends with state burocracy deciding to capitalize on it.
Well, Alan Moore did say comics are for children after all, so maybe they were right about it?😛DnD didn't appear until the seventies - and for the most part it was reminiscent of turn-based Diablo. There is no need to remember about the developed gaming industry until the eighties.
But we must remember that the Soviet leadership was very snobbish. Let's look at the example of comics - in the USSR, comics existed but as a form of “entertainment for children.” Cultural functionaries and figures were not interested in the development of the industry, and had no idea in what direction it could be developed. This is important because in other Warsaw Pact countries and Yugoslavia there were more complex series aimed at teenage audiences (And even the Italian and French Communist Parties had their own magazines, which contained more complex stories with a more “realistic” drawing style).
A. Yes, I need my Atompunk Cold War NOW
C. OTL the decision to transfer Crimea to Ukraine was due to the reason that Crimea was more connected to Ukraine than Russia and not some secret Ukrainian plot like some Stalinists would want you to believe. Going with C just to let the people decide.
Going with ruffino's plan here
Just like 3, I agree with ruffino's plan
Honestly people have been shutting this down but I think it's feasible, if we have a more progressive Culture ministry and a private citizen with the right idea, we could see some sort of D&D type thing, although with a Socialist bend: the main storylines are about peasants rising up to fight against their oppressive nobles
If you want to overthrow nobility and kill God's then Soviet games are games for you.
Our main heroines aren't princesses opposed to childhood friend from your village for more vanilla type and fellow revolutionary.
Tough honestly given that China has no problem with monarchy in their entertainment we probably won't as well. Still i see Godslaying, fighting evil Empire's and Robin Hood style of heroes being quite beloved by the public.
Or the protagonist's homeland invaded by said oppressive nobles/rulers (like the Nazis and other far-right ideologies and ideals) but I agree with @Kriss as well.
*Honestly, I feel like some dislike fun apparently...
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Honestly we may have a decent chance to develop it if it gets sold as a way to foster socialist values in children and a way for state to earn money through entertainment. Plus to spread Communist propaganda.
Still we will probably start to delve in that direction through board war games.
Now what i want to see is a neutral country developing a shooter game and getting access to both Eastern and Western servers only to pit two sides against each other's.
RIP USSR, you would've loved Fire Emblem Three Houses Crimson Flower Route.
But seriously, we could start a trend of having more underdog protagonists who are peasants rising up against authority or different races coming together to fight against oppressors
That would indeed become very popular as time goes on.
I believe some game company in Europe or Japan would take advantage of that if we manage to continue being around by the 2000s.
That probably would start to become very popular somewhere between early 80s-late 90s as those was a tensed time between the West and East.
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I think if we could someone with similar ideas like Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson or invite one of them, we could compete with Dungeons & Dragons in the U.S.
1. Should USSR pursue similar program to American "Atoms for Peace"?
A) Yes
2. Should Crimea be transferred from Russian SSR to Ukrainian SSR?
C) Let's have a referendum for the population of Crimea to make the decision.
3. Please write down, how agricultural output and productivity can be increased in the USSR?
I'll add my agreement to a mixture of the plans of @ruffino and @Kurd Gossemer
4. Please write down, how should the USSR deal with the new Egyptian premier Gamal Abdel Nasser and Pan-Arabism?
I'll add my agreement to @ruffino's plan.
A) Yes
2. Should Crimea be transferred from Russian SSR to Ukrainian SSR?
C) Let's have a referendum for the population of Crimea to make the decision.
3. Please write down, how agricultural output and productivity can be increased in the USSR?
I'll add my agreement to a mixture of the plans of @ruffino and @Kurd Gossemer
4. Please write down, how should the USSR deal with the new Egyptian premier Gamal Abdel Nasser and Pan-Arabism?
I'll add my agreement to @ruffino's plan.