The Iron Eagle III - Fallen Eagle
- Thread starter Kaiser of Brazil
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I was expecting Gerald Smith to actually get election stealing aid from The Reich rather than it just being American Nazis.
So, been catching up on this timeline, been a very interesting experience on Nazi victory timeline how the world has changed, evolving and devolving in many ways into a nightmarish reality.
It's also I think one of the timelines where Mao has done exceptionally better than OTL in every way, with some of his worst excesses reduced and he's managed to become the sole head of the socialist world and take Mongolia and Taiwan.
Though, something I'm curious about is how Goldwater's going to be aggressive about Germany, I'm not saying they are invincible but he's going to face a mighty struggle against US inertia and the fear of doomsday. After decades ''Fortress'' Europe has become more of a reality with most of the easy way of undermining Germany through it's slave population no longer available because the population is dead or managed to escape into Russia, Pan Europeanism is back again ect that means he's needs to push hard enough and risk political capital of a defeat which could weaken his campaign against Germany or if to much might cause a direct war. He's got to boil the pot the right temperature.
Though on Mexico, I admit not really sure what victory would look I know people compare it the USSR invading Afghanistan but overall think it's worst than that. The border was far more entrenched, only a couple of attacks on USSR territory happened and the end the USSR could leave with their proxy holding out for years. I feel this is more like Saudi Arabia's intervention during the Sanaa wars in Yemen that it risk directly spilling over a lot on their land and if they withdraw likely get worse.
It's also I think one of the timelines where Mao has done exceptionally better than OTL in every way, with some of his worst excesses reduced and he's managed to become the sole head of the socialist world and take Mongolia and Taiwan.
Though, something I'm curious about is how Goldwater's going to be aggressive about Germany, I'm not saying they are invincible but he's going to face a mighty struggle against US inertia and the fear of doomsday. After decades ''Fortress'' Europe has become more of a reality with most of the easy way of undermining Germany through it's slave population no longer available because the population is dead or managed to escape into Russia, Pan Europeanism is back again ect that means he's needs to push hard enough and risk political capital of a defeat which could weaken his campaign against Germany or if to much might cause a direct war. He's got to boil the pot the right temperature.
Though on Mexico, I admit not really sure what victory would look I know people compare it the USSR invading Afghanistan but overall think it's worst than that. The border was far more entrenched, only a couple of attacks on USSR territory happened and the end the USSR could leave with their proxy holding out for years. I feel this is more like Saudi Arabia's intervention during the Sanaa wars in Yemen that it risk directly spilling over a lot on their land and if they withdraw likely get worse.
Im pretty sure it has been teased about an integralist uprising in catholic med.
My mistake, that case it seems the best opportunity of gaining a beachhead in Europe.
It will concurrent with a second american civil war.
Unless uk supports it.
Although I do doubt how say France or Italy would actually leave with any rebellion probably seeing the Germans stepping in and further gaining control of France, while Italy has the whole Arab situation to deal with. If nothing else Brazil actually trying to entice rebellion is going to cause its own issues in the sense that the other Arab/Muslims are most likely going to become enemies of Brazil since I doubt France or Italy would ever give away their empires especially those area which were ethnically cleansed and filled with Europeans. Of course you might get a situation where North Africa remains allied to Germany while the rest of western Europe goes the Integralist route.
Even then thought trying to say integrate others into its own form of Catholic belief is going to cause some issues if the integralist succeed so who knows what happens. Of this is assuming this is what happens and not something else.
Even then thought trying to say integrate others into its own form of Catholic belief is going to cause some issues if the integralist succeed so who knows what happens. Of this is assuming this is what happens and not something else.
Remember, Germany actively holocausted Maghreb Arabs.
Why would they support him?
Also Integralists arent racist.
Saadeh is Christian.
MENA may support Brazil, provided decolonisation is on Cards.
But I think the rebellion remains in Iberia, making the point moot.
I meant that Northern Africa is probably European by this point, and since most of those settlers already had a bad relations with the Arabs they would be against any attempts at integration. That is what I meant.
Considering the general history in the region and probable rise of Islamist ideology the Arabs are most likely going to do their own thing than attempt to ally with the Catholic Brazilians.
I mean that is the problem in that the Europeans will likely be against Integralists as a whole if they do push for more anti-racist movement.
I mean all things considered that is the most realistic situation considering how Portugal and Brazil still have a general shared history and Spain was always its own thing.