Stars and Sickles - An Alternative Cold War

interest TL, with a butterfly wing that hit like Godzilla !

the Republic of Kurdistan, will be very turbulent piece of in this TL and a "domino effect" for region destabilizing the middle east !

background Info
the kurdistan people were always occupied by grate empires last by western powers, who drawn there colonies border over middle east maps.
so also over the Kurdistan nation again. now the middle east nations got hell of problem: the birth of new Kurdistan.
the other parts will try to secede and join the Republic of Kurdistan giving Stalin a huge piece of central middle east under USSR control.
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we talk here about south east turkey (while north east turkey are Armenian's who also want to join the soviet Armenians nation)
the east part of syria republic and north of Kingdom of Iraq (with rich oil fields)

with "Turkicisation" will the Arab nation become close allies with USA ?
Nasser will in retrospect what happen with turkey, will think twice befor he talk with USSR delegation.
or will new arab nationalism form a closer United Arab Republic between Syria, Iran, Egypt AND israel ?
under motto "the Enemy of my Enemy is my friend"

this mixture with a British Prime Minister on speed, oh boy that gonna be explosive...
 
Indeed, and the social democrats were quite the anti-communist hawks so I suspect ITTL Erlander would get his nukes.

yes, I didn't notice it in my readthrough but it's very unlikely to get a "pure" right wing government this early after the war in Sweden. In 1944 the Social democrats alone got 46,6% of the votes. 1948 they got 46,1%.
 
Maybe Austria would be like Finland during Cold War. But this might demand bit difficult. Austria might not be so willingful making the Agreement of Friendship, Cooperation, and Mutual Assistance than OTL Finland. And Sweden it not be, it is quiet clear. So hardly there is equivaliment for Finlandization.

IOTL Austria was occupied by the Allies untill 1955. They were only prepared to grant Austria it's freedom bank if they would be neutral for ever. The Austrians had friendship treaties with both the USA and the USSR and the case can be made for a mild Finlandization of Austria.

Interesting in this subject are the works of Hugo Portisch (Oesterreich I and II)
 
Hey guys, great to know that you're enjoying the TL so far!

Henriksson, don't worry, by "shift-to-the-right", I didn't mean pseudo-fascist or Central American tinpot dictator-style :p. The slight (keyword here, SLIGHT) shift is largely due to the influx of Swedish-speakers who fled from the Finnish mainland (The Alanders aren't leaving because the Finns won't let them).

DrakonFin, I will have a look at that stuff about Operation Stella Polaris etc., but I am actually gonna incorporate those things that you said :p I just forgot in the earlier update :eek: but I'll ensure to put more about them in a later update.

theswede, I'll look up Erlander. From the sounds of it he was a proponent of a Swedish nuclear program? How would that be affected if Sweden wasn't neutral?
 
The social democrats under the rule of Tage Erlander completely dominated Swedish politics during this time. They often formed coalition governments with the Peasant Party as a junior party. I guess something similar would characterize TTL.

Regarding the swedish nuclear program, IOTL, it was stopped 1968 due to budget constraints and political opposition within the social democratic party, and also parts of the military. The idea was to create smaller tactical nukes to use against harbours and airports.
 
some note on Sweden

the Swedish aircraft industry is for a nation with 8 million people, very advance and efficient in budget and production cost.
but thanks the OTL neutrally politic of Sweden, almost unknown for the rest of the world.

in this TL Sweden is not neutral, but founding member of NATO !
here SAAB could become a big aircraft manufacture, by exporting there fine aircraft to NATO members.
like Saab 32 Lansen attack aircraft, the Saab 35 Draken fighter or Saab 36 supersonic bomber* and Saab 37 Viggen.

*= Saab 36 supersonic bomber was real project for Swedish nuclear weapon program

and there is also the NATO competition in 1953 for a new light tactical support aircraft
OTL Fiat G91 won the competition, french step out the program and build the Dassault Étendard.
And there also the NATO competition for VTOL military aircraft what let to Harrier jet.
in the two here is SAAB also in competition!
 
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Chapter 4: Socialism amongst the Olive Groves - Greece (1940s)
Opening Moves: The Greek Civil War

The Greek Civil War, like all other events of the late 1940s, was caused by events earlier in the decade, particularly during WWII. In Greece, three rival factions which had earlier resisted the Nazis were at each others' throats: the National Liberation Front (EAM), a Communist movement; the National Republican Greek League (EDES) and the monarchist group National and Social Liberation (EKKA). These three factions struggled against both the German occupation and against each other. After the eventual liberation of the Greek nation from German occupation, it was time to form a new government. In areas under their control, the EAM had already set up the Political Committee of National Liberation (PEEA), a provisional government. In April 1944, the elections for this committee took place, both in EAM-occupied regions and (secretly) in the still-occupied cities. For the first time in Greek history, women were allowed to vote. The PEEA was dominated by Communists, with a Socialist President of the Cabinet, Alexandros Svolos. Later that year, in a conference in Lebanon, the Greek resistance movements formed a government of national unity.

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On December 1st, the government of "national unity", controlled by right-wing Prime Minister Giorgios Papandreou and British commander of Allied forces in the country General Ronald Scobie declared that all guerrilla groups should disarm by December 10th. The leadership and membership of the EAM could see this was clearly an attempt to weaken their movement, and supported by Yugoslav strongman Josip Broz Tito, they defied the government. The EAM ministers of the government resigned en masse, and proclaimed the reorganisation of ELAS, the EAM's wartime military wing. A demonstration was organised by EAM on December 3rd. 200,000 people marched down Panepistimiou St towards the Syntagma Square. British tanks and police units were scattered around the area, trying to block the demonstrators. Upon reaching the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, the demonstrators were fired upon by Greek police. More than 30 demonstrators were killed, and another 150 or so injured. This triggered the Dekemvriana, a period of street-fighting between EAM/ELAS fighters and the Greek police, supported by British troops.

Papandreou attempted to resign on the 4th, but Scobie refused it, and by the 12th, EAM fighters were in control of most of the cities of Athens and Piraeus. Outnumbered and desperate, the British flew in British troops stationed in Italy to bolster their forces. Faced with trained British troops, and given that the British didn't hesitate to use artillery and air-power against the EAM fighters, slowly regained control of Athens. In response, and with encouragement from Tito, ELAS began aggressive activities against Greek police and British troops throughout Greece.[7] The anti-communist forces quickly lost control of the countryside, occasionally sending ineffectual air forays to strafe EAM troops. In response to the EAM insurgency, the British brought in more troops, in moves which became increadingly unpopular back home. Fairly low-level fighting continued until a British offensive which seized the plains North-West of Athens in September of 1945. In response, ELAS increased recruitment and with arms provided by Yugoslavia, escalated their attacks on British forces. Although ELAS lost more men than the British, the British position was untenable in the long-term. They were outnumbered by ELAS guerrillas, Britain was in a bad way economically, the Labour government was trying to cut unnecessary spending overseas, and other commitments, such as in Palestine and supplying the Iranian government were stretching scarce British resources.

The British appealed to the Americans for funds to fight EAM, but were refused. The Wallace administration saw support for a government that was so opposed by it's people as relatively futile, and was already injecting a significant amount of money into Western Europe under the Marshall Plan[8]. From April 1946, British troops began to withdraw from Greece, and the EAM occupied Athens. The EAM declared Greece the "Popular Republic of Greece"(PRG) headed by Nikos Zachariadis (Aris Velouchiotis became Defense Minister), citing the struggles against the Germans as the British as a great moment in the national history of Greece, and pledging to rebuild the country for both the Hellenes and Slavo-Macedonian peoples (ELAS contained a high proportion of Slavo-Macedonians due to their lenient policy with ethnic minorities). In the months following, the new government signed a friendship treaty with the Soviet Union and started the "Red Terror", a campaign against former collaborators, Metaxas and Papandreou supporters. Papandreou himself had been evacuated to Egypt, and would later spend the rest of his life in London, where he died a heartbroken old man in the late 60s.

Historians believe that the Turkish decision to allow Soviet military bases after sustained diplomatic pressure was a desire not to antagonise the Soviets, given the triple threat of an attack from Greece into Rumelia, a confrontation with the Soviet Black Sea Fleet (far superior to the Turkish Navy) and the possibility of Soviet backing for a Kurdish separatist movement in Eastern Anatolia (with the ambition of cessation and uniting with the Mahabad Republic.

[7] In OTL, after their defeat in Athens, the EAM signed the Treaty of Varkiza, which abolished ELAS and greatly weakened them in the upcoming fighting. ITTL they do not, and in fact initiate the Greek Civil War earlier than OTL.

[8] Despite the butterflies generated by this TL, I still feel that it is VERY likely that the Wallace government would've gone through with the Marshall Plan or a very similar initiative, and wouldn't have shied away from it as a soft power method of strengthening the US position in Europe.
 
Interesting. Will Greece remain somewhat independent from USSR in a manner similar to Yugoslavia IOTL?

That is to be revealed ;) although I would like to hear you guys' opinions on it. After all, the Tito-Stalin Split WILL happen (it'd be ASB for it not to, given the two men's personalities) and Tito did give them more support than anyone, but they were loyal to Stalin even after the Tito-Stalin Split. So it'd be interesting to see what you guys think. Although given geography, Greece will likely be more independent than say Romania, Poland or East Germany.
 
The factor of cool claims a Yugoslav-Greece axis of a new communism against USSR. It is also fairly likely, given how Yugoslavia supported Greece communists while the Soviet Union tried to keep the communists in Greece calm.
 
A very interesting option of Greece Yugoslavia union, even that Greece become part of Yugoslavia (with Albania ? )
it could form a communist independent nation in Stalin East block.

but let see what the future of this TL brings...
 
Bumped. Hey guys, my next post is going to revolve around events in Korea and perhaps China too, but I was wanting to hear if you guys had any requests as to what to explore after that.

For example, India, Indonesia, Vietnam etc.? I want your inputs on what happens. I was thinking that at the end of each decade I would write a post on cultural changes, etc. in that decade, as well as having a list of more minor or unexplored events. Does that sound like a good format?
 
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